tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post4137822913582717169..comments2023-07-11T14:06:25.673+03:00Comments on Tartu - City of Good Food: Tartu Hanseatic DaysMingushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10129025788427961454noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-42844897956587611022010-09-27T16:45:23.636+03:002010-09-27T16:45:23.636+03:00Looks like Tartu Police may be doing a cover-up ag...Looks like Tartu Police may be doing a cover-up again. Here's a report from Ohtuleht about how a boy in Tartu was severely beaten and later died. It happened on Sept 20:<br /><br />http://www.ohtuleht.ee/index.aspx?id=395997<br /><br />Now here's the police listing of "major events" from Sept 20, 21, and 22:<br /><br />http://www.politsei.ee/et/uudised/uudis.dot?id=63225&rpid=25181<br /><br />http://www.politsei.ee/et/uudised/uudis.dot?id=63287&rpid=25181<br /><br />http://www.politsei.ee/et/uudised/uudis.dot?id=63304&rpid=25181<br /><br />The only "crimes" in Tartu during that time worth listing appear to be property crimes. Hmm...Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666812202305896656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-36963686585360716642010-08-04T14:18:12.559+03:002010-08-04T14:18:12.559+03:00I am ashamed of my indifference to my fellow man, ...I am ashamed of my indifference to my fellow man, actually, Justin. I went to school with violent skinheads, so they don't shock me; I had friends beaten up, so it doesn't surprise me; I don't put my faith in the police, so I am not disturbed by their poor performance. I sadly may not feel true outrage until something happens to me (ph ph ph - spitting in the air). Knowing Estonian does help. If you are a foreigner, you can change the dynamic of a bad situation by pretending to be a local ... The idiots might not buy it, but it may also confuse them.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-59974448203618779952010-07-29T02:14:21.915+03:002010-07-29T02:14:21.915+03:00I lived in DC around the same time Giustino did. I...I lived in DC around the same time Giustino did. I suppose it's just personal experience, but I was never a victim of crime there, and I've had more problems living in Estonia.<br /><br />I've called the police a few times both in DC and Estonia, and the police in DC were much quicker and efficient. Twice in DC I called 911 for a crime in progress and multiple patrol cars were on the scene within 90 seconds. Meanwhile in Tallinn I've called for crimes in progress (a rape, multiple fights), all in old town, and response times were usually at least 5 minutes or more.<br /><br />Of course that's all anecdotal. I certainly have no fear of someone sticking a gun in my face in Estonia, while that could definitely happen in DC (note that guns are illegal in Washington, DC, but criminals don't care of course).<br /><br />Estonia does appear to have a higher homicide rate than the US, if you look at the overall country and not just urban areas:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate<br /><br />Still I'm not saying Estonia is full of crimes -- I certainly feel safe. Just that the US is not as crime-ridden as it may seem.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666812202305896656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-63595450605372227522010-07-28T10:00:35.112+03:002010-07-28T10:00:35.112+03:00By the way, does Estonia have a public online data...By the way, does Estonia have a public online database of registered sex offenders? I always used to check out our neighborhoods in the US.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-51504335463125172122010-07-27T06:59:55.586+03:002010-07-27T06:59:55.586+03:00Thanks. Somehow, that idiot Giustino never writes ...<i>Thanks. Somehow, that idiot Giustino never writes anything about the real, dark side of Tartu and just goes on and on about how safe and wonderful Tartu/Estonia is because nothing ever happened to him.</i><br /><br />Maybe because compared to the other places I have lived (New York; Washington, DC) Tartu is comparably safe and wonderful. DC was the worse of the two. When I lived there, in 1998-2002, it was just beginning to climb out of its Marion Barry-era abyss, when it was America's murder capital for a number of years. <br /><br />In an urban situation, you sadly learn to avert your gaze, you say nothing to the person who accosts you, you hold your breath, hoping that the assailant will bother someone else, and you know you can't exactly count on the police to come to your rescue. Here's a question: has anyone ever been accidentally shot to death by the police in Tartu? It's happened multiple times in New York City.<br /> <br />Perhaps my previous experiences have jaded me. Like this comment from Mingus:<br /><br /><i>They may wear modern clothes, having abandoned denim bodysuits and Nike tracksuits, but Coke Light is still Coke, and junk food is still junk food.</i><br /><br />Have you ever been to Queens? In some places, they are still wearing Nike track suits! And they are dangerous guys. I used to live close to Howard Beach, in 2005 and 2006 two separate racially-motivated attacks occurred there. The <a href="http://www.1010wins.com/pages/44600.php?contentType=4&contentId=154915" rel="nofollow">difference</a> was that in at least one case, the perpetrator, one Nicholas Minucci, actually went to jail. <br /><br />I hope that pressure from blogs like Mingus' can somehow push the Estonian criminal justice system on the path of punishing criminals. If such attacks had happened pre-Civil Rights movement in Howard Beach, they probably would have gone unpunished.Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-27517890530034586052010-07-27T06:11:45.236+03:002010-07-27T06:11:45.236+03:00I swear I've seen that pervert guy before, but...I swear I've seen that pervert guy before, but not at a playground ... got to think of where ... hopefully not a friend's party ...Giustinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04756707910693785516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-6727705347864116392010-07-23T11:03:54.673+03:002010-07-23T11:03:54.673+03:00Hmm guess I forgot to post the link. Here it is:
...Hmm guess I forgot to post the link. Here it is:<br /><br />http://www.politsei.ee/et/pressile/uudiste-arhiiv/uudis.dot?id=60656&rpid=25292Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666812202305896656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-40894734264453268432010-07-22T08:11:30.195+03:002010-07-22T08:11:30.195+03:00Thanks Anonymous, but perhaps we should try to be ...Thanks Anonymous, but perhaps we should try to be constructive and not defamatory.<br /><br />And thank you Márton.<br /><br />Justin - I think you wanted to post a link? It didn't come through. But I have to agree with you, at least as much as I <i>do</i> think it is intentionally covered up.Mingushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10129025788427961454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-78635248925538685332010-07-21T15:06:13.898+03:002010-07-21T15:06:13.898+03:00I think it's a cover-up by Tartu police, thoug...I think it's a cover-up by Tartu police, though I don't know if it's intentional.<br /><br />Here's a list of all "crimes of note" this weekend for each district in Estonia. Note in Tallinn, any fight or attack is listed (and the same with some other districts). In Tartu, nothing is listed except thefts.<br /><br />You can go back other days and see the same things. So either fights aren't important, or they aren't being reported.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16666812202305896656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-35032461820115128832010-07-21T14:42:41.314+03:002010-07-21T14:42:41.314+03:00Thanks. Somehow, that idiot Giustino never writes...Thanks. Somehow, that idiot Giustino never writes anything about the real, dark side of Tartu and just goes on and on about how safe and wonderful Tartu/Estonia is because nothing ever happened to him.<br /><br />Refreshing post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935232044258447718.post-71438273293908337212010-07-21T06:54:16.127+03:002010-07-21T06:54:16.127+03:00it is a fantastic /again well structured/ and thou...it is a fantastic /again well structured/ and thoughtmoving postMárton Barkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495002188351210noreply@blogger.com